Mark R. Levin Interviews U.S. Senator Orrin Hatch
about a Balanced-Budget Amendment for
The United States Constitution
by
Victor Edward Swanson,
publisher
The Hologlobe Press
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The United States of America
copyright c. 2011
January 27, 2011
(Version 1)
(Draft version)
At the Web site for The Hologlobe Press, you will find a document entitled Objectives and Tactics: Principles for Improving the United States of America, which was first posted on the Internet on January 10, 2010, and the document presents a number of major changes that have to be made to make the United States of America a better country, and those charges are not the types of changes that would be proposed by "enslavists," such as, in particular, communists and socialists, a good example of whom is Barack Hussein Obama, and, really, the document is a general-principles document. Also at the Web site for The Hologlobe Press is a document entitled The United States Constitution Needs These Blocking Measures--Amendments, which presents information about how to make the country better by adding specific amendments to The United States Constitution that, for one, would help block bad politicians--"enslavists"--from hurting the country, and one of the proposed amendments would set limits on how much money the federal government could spend in a given year and the spending restrictions would be based on, for one, the Gross Domestic Product of the country. This document presents more information about the proposed amendment that would restrict how much the government could spend each year by presenting in text form a big portion of an interview conducted by Mark R. Levin on The Mark Levin Show (a nationally syndicated radio show) of U.S. Senator Orrin Hatch (a Republican related to Utah), one member of the U.S. Congress who has been pushing for such an amendment to be made and ratified for a number of years. The interview was conducted on Thursday, January 27, 2011, and here is the big portion of the interview:
Mark Levin: "I am extremely interested in an amendment proposed by Senator Orrin Hatch and Senator John Cornyn, because I feel this amendment is the surest way to get the government under control, and this amendment, ah, is being opposed by a large majority--if not all--the Democrats, so I asked Senator Hatch to come on and explain this, but I've talked about it, dah, earlier this week. Senator Hatch, how are ya, sir?"
Orrin Hatch: "Well, I'm doing good. How are you?"
Mark Levin: "Very well, my friend, very well. This, this is crucial. This is cru. Tell everybody about is amendment."
Orrin Hatch: "Well, it really is. If you stop and think about it, you know, our nation is in a financial crisis. It's getting worse every day. It's fueled by runaway spending that's reached now--get this. Twenty-five percent of GDP--financial debt has increased by more than twenty-five percent in just the last two years, and the Congressional Budget Office says it's already nearly two-thirds the size of our economy and within nine years could be ninety percent, which is unsustainable. So, I announced yesterday a balanced-budget amendment to The Constitution, and this amendment will set affective limits on federal spending and taxes and require a balanced budget. Admiral Mike Mullen, for instance--he's chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff--he calls our debt, 'The most significant treat to our national security.' Even Hillary--Secretary of State Hillary Clinton--warns that the debt, and she says, 'Sends a message of weakness internationally.' So, it has national security as well as economic implications. And what our proposed amendment does. Well, first of all, year after year, decade after decade, Congress proves it will not solve this crisis on its own. There are just simply too many ways for Washinto, Washington here to avoid controlling its spending and balancing its budget, but we can't allow that continued failure and depending budget crisis to continue. We just can't! Now, our annual budget deficit is more than ten times what it was in 1997, when the U.S. Senate came within one vote of approving my constitutional amendment, which is, basically, the same as this one. We, we had sixty-six votes in the Senate. We lacked one vote. The crisis is even worse today. It's not gonna solve itself. Millions of working families across the country--they balance their checks every year. Why can't the government do the same? So, I believe that the balanced budget is absolutely critical, because every time there's been a grand budget compromise in the eighties and the nineties, spending was reduced for a while--taxes were raised--and the crisis was forestalled but only for a short time. What happened is the tax increased remained, but the spending started to increasing almost, ah, ah, again almost as soon as these grand budget deals were done. So, so the tax increases were not used to tackle deficits, but they ended up being used to fund more spending. Now, now, look, that shows why we need a constitutional amendment. It's the only iron-clad way I know to force our nation to live...."
Mark Levin: "Now, now, Senator, this amendment would do very specific things. That's why it is crucial."
Orrin Hatch: "Well, let me tell you what it would do. It mandates the total budgetary outlays for any fiscal year not exceed total revenues, unless you have to two-thirds vote to overturn that. Now, that's what families across America do every day--they don't spend more than they have. It caps federal spending at twenty percent of GDP. Now, if, if we don't bring spending--we're now spending twenty-five percent of GDP--that's a huge, huge expenditure. Now, if we don't get those spending levels brought down to more historic levels, ah--some want to go further, bringing it down below twenty percent--and I appreciate that passion and agree with them, but in order to get, eh, eh, enough people on board on this proposal, to, to ensure it has a real chance of passage, we've settled on twenty percent. It requires the President to summit a balanced budget to Congress every fiscal year. Now, every state in this union but Vermont has some form of balanaced-budget amendment. Germany has one. The Swiss have one. I think it's time our nation does as well. Now, it also prohibits revenue-raising measures that are not approved by two-thirds of, of, of both House and Senate. In other words, you can't increase taxes without a two-thirds vote. That's a big-time provision. And then provisions can be waved if there's a formal declaration of war or if the U.S. is engaged in a military conflict constituting a threat to national security or if two-thirds of both the House and the Senate approve."
Mark Levin: "Isn't, isn't this similar to what Milton Freeman originally...."
Orrin Hatch: "Oh, yeah. Milton and I worked together on this."
Mark Levin: "Yeah?"
Orrin Hatch: "Hey! I go all the way back to 1977. And, really, in 1982, Senator Thurmond and I brought the first balanced-budget--at least the first one at that time--ah, to the floor. And we actually won, during the Reagan years--we actually had I think sixty-nine votes. You have to have sixty-seven. We actually won. And then, of course, the House killed it under Tip O'Neill. So, ah, that's, that actually happened. And now we've got another thing going for us at this time. Now, let me just say this, ah, it's important that we have a national-security exception, but also, ah."
Mark Levin: "Let me, let me ask you this. In the, in the Senate, you've got nineteen others who've joined you and Cornyn...."
[They talked over each other.]
Orrin Hatch: "...We're now up to twenty-three, ah, sponsors of this amendment. And I call them 'sponsors' 'cause I think everyone on that amendment--constitutional amendment--can claim that it's their amendment."
That covers the general ideas of the proposed amendment. I left out some material about, for example, their talk about how the amendment might or might not get passed through the U.S. Senate. I end this simple document by noting that, at one point, Orrin Hatch did say, "...If, if we get it through the Senate, we'll get it through the House, and then it will be submitted to every state in the union, and then we've got to get, ah, you know, we got to get three-quarters of the states--or thirty-eight states--to sign off on it. And we can, and we can...."In the opening of this document, I mentioned the document entitled Objectives and Tactics: Principles for Improving the United States of America, and the document can be reached by using this Tactics link, and I also mentioned the document entitled The United States Constitution Needs These Blocking Measures--Amendments, and that document can be reached by using this Blocking link.
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